Saturday 8 March 2008

Conversation of two classmates

From: myaccount@hotmail.com
To: myclassmate@hotmail.com
Subject: Election time
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:09:56 +0100

Dear All,

If you are mad enough to re-read the ZP-Rajoy debates in English:

http://abrevaderos.blogspot.com/2008/02/notas-del-debate-round-1.html
http://abrevaderos.blogspot.com/2008/03/notes-of-debate-round-2.html

No, I'm not bored. I work, eat, drink, read, play football, go clubbing, watch films, and enjoy my time. In fact, I barely sleep the days I blog. The only things I don't do is watching TV (excluding the debates) and wasting my time with computer games.

Love and freedom!
Borja


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From: Jose Julio Caparros (myclassmate@hotmail.com)
To: myaccount@hotmail.com
Subject: Election time
Date: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:06:29 AM

¿A quién vas a votar Lopo? Eres un líder de masas. Ilumínanos! ¿Ni siquiera lo del matrimonio gay te ha convencido? Mira que nunca se sabe...


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I'm no mass leader, my friend. I don't know whether you read my post on Russia's ideologies: I am against any sort of Warlordism ("caudillismo") or demagogy (style quite commonly used by politicians who try to win support by using arguments based on emotion rather than reason and which converts them - people with no particularly great ideas - into mass leaders).

I am a libertarian ("liberal" in the sense given in Spanish from Spain - rather than 'libertario' as explained here). I support a somewhat limited form of government (further information here), leaning towards minarchism.

There are no proper libertarian political parties in Spain with which I fully agree, though there are sort of libertarian currents in some parties, such as in Union, Progreso y Democracia (UPyD), Ciudadanos-Partido de la Ciudadania (C's), Partido Popular (PP). That is why I don't ask people to vote for a specific party, but I do ask you not to vote for the anti-libertarian parties, such as PSOE, IU, CIU, PNV, ERC, BNG, Falanges (the last 4 are are national-socialists), Los Verdes, Partido Comunista, Partido Antitaurino, Partido Carlista, Partido Humanista, etc.

JJ, what does your "does not even the gay marriage convince you?" mean? PSOE and Zapatero have done hundreds of things wrong, and just a few of them well. I am in favour of a gay civil partnership in the UK style (enacted with far less scorn for the dissenters). Fortunately in Spain gays and other minorities can now live with no great risk for their lives just for the fact of being a minority (although physical and verbal attacks still occur and I condemn/fight them).

However, lots of citizens who defend Spain still need bodyguards and PSOE's dealings with ETA have not helped them. No negotiation should be held with ETA other than to decide how they are going to destroy all their weapons after ETA having surrendered with absolutely no economical, political or juridical concession by Spain.

Furthermore, PSOE have shown an anti-libertarian or disgusting behaviour in any other field. There is a list of reasons not to vote PSOE (some of which I'd re-phrase).

For these National elections, among the list of options, there are two new parties (UPyD and C's) with some libertarian characteristics and chances to reach the Congress. I think that lots of PSOE voters in the last elections would do better voting any of those two parties.

I'd like to see the anti-libertarian power (socialists and anti-freedom nationalists) reduced.

Hope this answers your question, JJ.

Love and freedom.

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